Encouraging more people to have humanist weddings and funerals and in particular to reject the obscenity of ‘Christenings’ would be a good and practical start in the road to carving out a stronger public space and voice for non-believers. The religions are greatly strengthened by the weak-willed simply going along with their control of ceremonies relating to births, marriages in deaths. In the British Humanist Association and the National Secular Society there are two bodies that could provide a much bigger service for us and voice for us. Secularists and Humanists should make more use of them.